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Why Minato sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto
panikoskunDate: Monday, 2011-07-18, 1:24 PM | Message # 46
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Okay then lets explore what would have happened if Naruto wasn't born. First Madara would have used Nagato to obtain the Kyuubi along with mostly other Akatsukis the ones that Naruto didn't take down which would immediately make this whole point of him making a mistake of making Naruto null.

You are thinking of this very wrong bro. If Minato didn't produce a son then there wouldn't be anyone to house the Kyuubi. Then the Kyuubi would have no host thus both decreasing Konoha's military presence and prestige. It would also make Konoha even more vulnerable to the assaults of the other Villages who would want to steal the Kyuubi.

His decisions was based on the need to create a child that could continue the Uzumaki bloodline and produce a vessel for the Kyuubi which would for starters keep the balance of the Bijuus between the Villages and secondly show that Konoha still has the means to use the Kyuubi.

Therefore Minato planned and acted as both a father and a Hokage. Naruto was given birth for the purpose of bringing peace. Minato provided for him the tools so that he could accomplish it and any other action that wouldn't follow this train of events that we have seen would have concluded in Madara obtaining the Kyuubi much sooner.


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MGB2000XDate: Monday, 2011-07-18, 2:00 PM | Message # 47
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Okay then lets explore what would have happened if Naruto wasn't born. First Madara would have used Nagato to obtain the Kyuubi along with mostly other Akatsukis the ones that Naruto didn't take down which would immediately make this whole point of him making a mistake of making Naruto null.


With Minato and Kushina at full strength I don't think Madara, Nagato or any of the Akatsuki would have gotten close to obtaining the Kyuubi.

Sure Naruto has been a very positive effect on the Ninja world, and without his birth we wouldn't have had the series to read X-D

Minato was stalling if he decided to have a son in order to use him as the Kyuubi's next host. He didn't have a permanent solution for the issue of Bijuu so he was passing the buck to the next generation. Why does it have to be an Uzumaki that houses the Kyuubi? they are better suited for sure but the other villages don't have Uzumaki's but they still manage to get by somehow.

The enormous gamble he took is completely ridiculous, especially considering how close his "plan" came to failing. Someone who left nothing to chance I don't think so. He was caught off guard, placed his son, wife and village in very real danger.
 
panikoskunDate: Monday, 2011-07-18, 5:07 PM | Message # 48
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Yes they do get someone but are they successes. The Hachibi had like hundreds of failures and the same was for the Shukaku. It was all about strategy and planning for the future. Minato fathered Naruto and created for him a way to control the Kyuubi without the drawbacks that his mother had to endure.

Even with Minato and Kushina at full strength people like Nagato, Kisame, Kakuzu, Hidan and Deidara would have caused a lot of trouble.

His gamble was taken because it was necessary for the peace of Konoha and the balance of the Bijuus. If he hadn't planned all these features on Naruto that we see now then Naruto would most likely be a Jinchuuriki like Killer Bee thus making him incapable of defeating the Zetsus in the way that we saw.

His planning was precise and accurate. And the fact that we see the set of abilities that Minato himself said that a shinobi would need to defeat Madara being used now and also being effective is enough to prove a level or pre-planning and further insight into Madara's plan.


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MGB2000XDate: Tuesday, 2011-07-19, 0:51 AM | Message # 49
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Timing and execution were awful if this was his plan.

Things have worked out fantastically well with Naruto. But Minato had now way of knowing he botched together a plan because everything was completely FUBAR.

How could he know that Naruto would manifest such powers? There have been no recorded incidence of any host having that affect. Sensing emotions sure but turning wood element to trees.

Ok maybe Mito had that affect on Hashirama but there is no indication Kushina did.

Ok let's have a son who'll be the next vessel for the Kyuubi. Sounds sensible enought.

Hold on the seal will weaken whilst giving birth, maybe not such a good idea.

It would have made more sense to transfer it to a temp host. Or even better into one of the sealing pots like they did with Shukaku or the Hachibi. Yes they are hard to come by but it makes more sense than taking such a risk.

He saw danger he didn't see specific. He hoped his son was the answer. He had to believe that, he was going to burden him with something enormous. Self soothing rationalisation was used to convince himself and his wife.
 
panikoskunDate: Tuesday, 2011-07-19, 11:02 AM | Message # 50
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It would have made more sense to transfer it to a temp host. Or even better into one of the sealing pots like they did with Shukaku or the Hachibi. Yes they are hard to come by but it makes more sense than taking such a risk.


I doubt that this makes sense bro since the Kyuubi's chakra contains the strongest hatred which is quite capable at corrupting people and very dangerous for Konoha. We saw what happened to the Cloud Village when they were experimenting with vessels. Minato was just smart enough to realize that its better to create a capable vessel that sacrifice a hundred of his fellow shinobis in the off chance that one of them might house it for a small period of time. And the jars was a means to hold down the Shukaku and the Hachibi not the Kyuubi which has the most volatile chakra from all the Bijuus. If that could have been done then the Senju would never have turned into the Uzumaki clan for vessels.

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Timing and execution were awful if this was his plan.


His execution came into the moment that it needed to come. Madara attacked and Minato had the seal and the intelligence to leave Naruto with his and his mother chakra in him to pass down information. When the chakra of the Kyuubi reached its peek in the Nagato conflict he even had another fail safe for Naruto waiting.

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How could he know that Naruto would manifest such powers? There have been no recorded incidence of any host having that affect. Sensing emotions sure but turning wood element to trees.


We already know that Minato was aware of what Naruto would gain. In the Nagato battle he talked to Naruto that only a shinobi with a certain set of skills could kill Madara. It would be pointless and unreasonable for anyone to pass down this power to his son without having a thorough knowledge of what would happen to him. That is why Minato created this way for Naruto to control the Kyuubi.

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Hold on the seal will weaken whilst giving birth, maybe not such a good idea.


It couldn't have happened any way else. If there wasn't a birth then the Kyuubi would either be in a jar sealed if that is something that can be done for the Kyuubi or we would see countless of vessels being sacrificed just to keep the Kyuubi from roaming free. Minato knew that Konoha needed a vessel. An Uzumaki was the best candidate. His son which he knew that he would control the Kyuubi was the best case.

Minato was always aware that his actions during the shinobi war would make him and the village a top target. He also knew that the shinobi system would always house war and conflict. Creating this path for Naruto was Minato's way of creating a hero that would protect the village and keep the Kyuubi from falling into the wrong hands.

If Minato just sealed the Kyuubi into his son without any tutorials or fail safes then I would say that he just got lucky but seeing all the measures that he took to secure that Naruto would obtain the Kyuubi's power while also learning of what happened in the past speaks of volumes of planning and preparation and thorough insight.


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Message edited by panikoskun - Tuesday, 2011-07-19, 11:04 AM
 
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