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Why Minato sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto
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| amarlie_24 | Date: Tuesday, 2011-07-05, 12:48 PM | Message # 16 |
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| Quote (Dowmone) so naruto uses rasengan, hits Madara straight int he chest...and he turns into a tree!! biggrin
That one is great..*kidding... But who knows if Zetsu can do that, somehow it'll be hard to distinguish which is true Madara... 
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| TobiRikudou | Date: Tuesday, 2011-07-05, 12:53 PM | Message # 17 |
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| Quote (panikoskun) And yet bro other than these two none other was able to come to the same conclusion. Not the Mizukage that Madara manipulated and probably not even Nagato himself.
Well, that Mizukage wasnt affected by just manipulation (clearly) Madara hs a knack for controlling things with his eyes (Kyuubi, twice) so it's safe to say that Yagura was affected the same way.
Not that i'm defending Nagato, his IQ was quite low (imo) but he didnt really go against Madara in the first place, Madara was tagging along and Nagato was fooled as well.
Madara turns to people who have hatred or anger, and are blinded by it, he steps on that and makes them his pawns. Nagato, Sasuke, Kisame...
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| panikoskun | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-06, 10:29 AM | Message # 18 |
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| Nagato was smart just not Minato level smart. He was able to learn how to use the Rinnegan which would poss an immense complex issue for most people. Its just that Minato's thinking process includes many levels of multitasking which is something that we even see at his jutsus.
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| MGB2000X | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-06, 6:40 PM | Message # 19 |
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| I'll say it's definitely possible that Minato deduced that it was Madara controlling the Kyuubi. I say this because it's only Madara and Hashirama who are known to have had any control over Bijuu whilst they were unsealed.
Maybe, and this is pure speculation, the level of control Minato witnessed that the level of control exerted over the bijuu was greater than either Madara or Hashirama had previously mustered. This could have resulted in him coming up with the idea of a combo of Madara and Hashirama.... Madarshirama!
As for Minato knowing that the wood element reacts to the kyuubi chakra maybe from the Shodai's ability to subdue them or as the result of the wood element reacting to Mito or Kushina.
Non convinced about the Rasengan being left for Naruto. He developed the tech from observing the beast bomb. Why would he develop a technique, to pass on to his son, to combat a foe which he didn't know existed?
With regards to Yang chakra the Uzumaki are related to the Senju so they have a tendancy towards the physical right? Because the are descended from the sage's younger son. Maybe he wanted to boost Naruto's already ample physical abilities or maybe he knew he'd be more able to control the physical as opposed to the spiritual.
The 6th coffin having Mito or Kushina that makes sense. Orochimaru did genetic experiments with the Shodai's cells which produced Yamato. Maybe he saw that it was a possibility for an immortal body. Once it became common knowledge that Madara is Tobi combined with the nature of Zetsu then Kabuto is sharp enough to deduce how he pulled it off.
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| Niru | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-06, 7:09 PM | Message # 20 |
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| Quote (TobiRikudou) Not that i'm defending Nagato, his IQ was quite low (imo) but he didnt really go against Madara in the first place, Madara was tagging along and Nagato was fooled as well.
Nagato wanted to bring peace in the world, but then get deviated by Madara by getting information that World is fighting because they have power of tailed beasts. So if the Tailed Beasts get removed from world then there would be peace all over. It was Itachi who was knowing Madara's secret
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| MGB2000X | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-06, 9:39 PM | Message # 21 |
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| I thought Negato twisted Jiraiya's message and wanted to inflict enormous suffering on the world. Initially to bring understanding but it would ultimately result in the neverending cycle of hatred.
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| panikoskun | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-06, 10:23 PM | Message # 22 |
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| Quote (MGB2000X) Non convinced about the Rasengan being left for Naruto. He developed the tech from observing the beast bomb. Why would he develop a technique, to pass on to his son, to combat a foe which he didn't know existed?
Truth be told bro Minato had foreseen the political implications of his marriage with Kushina. He knew very well that when she would pass away that their son would be forced to become the host much like how Gaara was forced to be for the Shukaku. Perhaps in Minato's mind he was always designing away to make the Kyuubi more manageable and his techniques more usable in the human state.
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| MGB2000X | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-07, 12:32 PM | Message # 23 |
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| Ok Minato was an insightful and intelligent ninja, so he would have considered the possibility of either him or Kushina dying in combat. Their son could have been suited to holding the Kyuubi, cos of his Uzumaki side.
If Minato had even the slightest inkling why didn't he arrange for another host to be prepared? Him and Kushina had been together for quite a while so it seems awfully risky to wait for their child to come along.
Minato foreseeing their deaths I can accept but his lack of preparation doesn't make sense.
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| panikoskun | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-07, 12:34 PM | Message # 24 |
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| He did the best that he could bro. Other than the Uzumaki clan there were no other suitable hosts bro. Even amongst the Senju none was good enough to do that. In my eyes Minato prepared as much as he could.
There were none other Uzumaki clan members except from Nagato and he was told that Kushina's clan was no more. So he concentrated on preparing the best that he could for Naruto.
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| MGB2000X | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-07, 1:08 PM | Message # 25 |
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| Not convinced about that one bro.
Hashirama's offspring would have Uzumaki traits from Mito.
And I just realised that Naruto and Tsunade are related!
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| panikoskun | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-07, 1:13 PM | Message # 26 |
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| Well Minato saw that the offsprings weren't as strong as they needed to be.
And yeah they would have but natural selection is a tricky thing. I guess in the offspring the Senju genes became dominant making it unfit to become a Jinchuuriki whereas in Kushina's and Minato's case Naruto was born with the trains of the Uzumaki clan as dominant.
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| MGB2000X | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-07, 1:32 PM | Message # 27 |
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All seems a bit short sighted. If Senju genes are dominant then they didn't take the next host into consideration after Kushina.
Everyone seems to have take a gamble as to his childs traits.
All a bit last minute and this will have to do. He's known for being meticulous and thorough but when it came to this where did all that go.
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| panikoskun | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-07, 1:35 PM | Message # 28 |
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| Yeah it is kind of a gamble. Perhaps in the Mito and Hashirama couple the strongest person got to pass down his genes which in their case was Hashirama making the offspring more Senju which in the end made it not suitable for the Kyuubi.
In Minato and Kushina's case Kushina was obviously the one that had stronger traits which we can see in Naruto's appearance allowing the offspring to have Uzumaki traits making it suitable for the Kyuubi.
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| MGB2000X | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-07, 5:45 PM | Message # 29 |
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| Quote (panikoskun) Kushina was obviously the one that had stronger traits which we can see in Naruto's appearance
Don't quite follow this dude, Naruto looks a hell of a lot like Minato!
Sure his personality, chakra reserves and endurance match up with Kushina but how could they have possibly known?
If you looked at him when he was born he's got Namikaze written all over him, assuming the Namikaze all looked like Minato.
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| panikoskun | Date: Friday, 2011-07-08, 1:24 PM | Message # 30 |
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| Quote (MGB2000X) Don't quite follow this dude, Naruto looks a hell of a lot like Minato!
Sure his personality, chakra reserves and endurance match up with Kushina but how could they have possibly known?
If you looked at him when he was born he's got Namikaze written all over him, assuming the Namikaze all looked like Minato.
First of all other than the hair Naruto looks less and less to Minato. His mouth and facial expressions are of Kushina's. Naruto has his father's hair and eyes.
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