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Naruto and Minato and differences concerning their speed
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| panikoskun | Date: Thursday, 2011-06-30, 6:46 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Okay people we have seen lately a debate arising about Naruto speed. My belief is that this speed that he has shown is similar to the one that Minato could produce with the FTG.
I am not saying that Naruto is using FTG. FTG requires the use of poth space/time and sealing techs and Naruto only showed the his pumped up Shunshin no Jutsu and nothing more.
Perhaps people feel that this speed of his is better than Minato's.
At the moment I retain a level of skepticism about it. Sure Naruto doesn't need the kunais and the tags and all but Naruto is not actually teleporting which is faster than running.
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| TobiRikudou | Date: Thursday, 2011-06-30, 11:39 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Naruto's speed is simply faster than the Raikage, Naruto isnt using Shunshin no jutsu, he doesnt know it.
That is his RAW speed.
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| panikoskun | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 0:05 AM | Message # 3 |
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| Quote (TobiRikudou) Naruto's speed is simply faster than the Raikage, Naruto isnt using Shunshin no jutsu, he doesnt know it.
That is his RAW speed.
I can see that but still it seems quite fast to be just raw speed. XD
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| MGB2000X | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 0:37 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Hmmmm fair point he's never learnt Shunshin.
There's more than one way to skin a cat and whilst the Yondaime was rather slick with his use of seals and space/time ninjutsu maybe Naruto is just powering his way through space and time?
From the looks of it the FTG didn't cost Minato any chakra and if it did it was minimal. Naruto's technique, whatever it is, needs the massive chakra of the Kyuubi behind it to work.
I liken it to comparing an aeroplane to a helicopter. The aeroplane works cleverly with physics but the helicopter just beats gravity into submission!
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| panikoskun | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 0:40 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Quote (MGB2000X) Hmmmm fair point he's never learnt Shunshin.
There's more than one way to skin a cat and whilst the Yondaime was rather slick with his use of seals and space/time ninjutsu maybe Naruto is just powering his way through space and time?
From the looks of it the FTG didn't cost Minato any chakra and if it did it was minimal. Naruto's technique, whatever it is, needs the massive chakra of the Kyuubi behind it to work.
I liken it to comparing an aeroplane to a helicopter. The aeroplane works cleverly with physics but the helicopter just beats gravity into submission!
Or perhaps the Kyuubi chakra has that space/time attirbute?
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| TobiRikudou | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 1:12 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Guys, Naruto has never teleported, Killerbee's statements support that in my opinion.
He said he saw a yellow flash, the only way for that to happen after Naruto moved from point A to point B
(which is different than Yondaime's wide area of effect teleportation which enables him to be everywhere at the same time, hence the nick Yellow Flash), is if Killerbee tracked the light Naruto emits when he's in Kyuubi mode.
In short, Naruto MOVES so fast that you can track where he went by the light he leaves behind. I hope that makes sense 
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| panikoskun | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 2:37 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Perhaps I just don't think that raw speed can produce this effect even if it is powered by the chakra of a Bijuu or the cloak. Otherwise Killer Bee for example would have a similar disposition,
I think its a bit more than just raw speed.
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| TobiRikudou | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 3:40 AM | Message # 8 |
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| ....or maybe Killerbee isnt as fast as Naruto
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| Niru | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 7:46 AM | Message # 9 |
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| Quote (TobiRikudou) ....or maybe Killerbee isnt as fast as Naruto
Yes Killer Bee isnt as fast as Naruto. Also he can not distinguish between the different emotions like Naruto do to point Zetsus.
There is something in Kyuubi, It is different from other Tailed Beasts
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| panikoskun | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 1:00 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Quote (Niru) There is something in Kyuubi, It is different from other Tailed Beasts
In my belief its his chakra that allows Naruto to use some sort of space/time attribute.
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| Niru | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 1:15 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Quote (panikoskun) In my belief its his chakra that allows Naruto to use some sort of space/time attribute.
Thats the thing. Why the Kyuubi chakra is different from other Tailed Beasts
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| panikoskun | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 1:19 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Quote (Niru) Thats the thing. Why the Kyuubi chakra is different from other Tailed Beasts
It appears that when Rikudo split the Jyuubi into the 9 beasts he infused a sort of personality traits in them that correspondent with the mythology of the era. By doing so his imagination made this beasts into reality thus attributing them with unique features.
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| Niru | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 1:42 PM | Message # 13 |
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| Quote (panikoskun) It appears that when Rikudo split the Jyuubi into the 9 beasts he infused a sort of personality traits in them that correspondent with the mythology of the era. By doing so his imagination made this beasts into reality thus attributing them with unique features.
Was it so the Rikodou made the half the Chakra Kyuubi then other half's half made Hachibi then the other half's half Seven Tailed ............
I think that's why the Tailed Beasts are sealed inside Gedo Mazo according to their increasing tails Number . Madara could have at least said that
Till now we have not seen the full abilities of the Tailed Beasts. I hope we can see them now
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| panikoskun | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 1:46 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Quote (Niru) Was it so the Rikodou made the half the Chakra Kyuubi then other half's half made Hachibi then the other half's half Seven Tailed ............
I think that's why the Tailed Beasts are sealed inside Gedo Mazo according to their increasing tails Number . Madara could have at least said that
Till now we have not seen the full abilities of the Tailed Beasts. I hope we can see them now
Perhaps at some point Rikudo saw this kind of scenario although I think that he knew that the Jyuubi's resurrection wouldn't be for anything good.
Although the Gedo Mazo requires to have all the Tailed beasts before the Kyuubi's extraction maybe this is not the case for the lower tailed Bijuus. I guess it has more to do with the user.
Well Yugito did show us some of her abilities. The Yonbi also showed as the Lava element although we know now that its not unique to him. Also the 6-tails Utakata. And also the Shukaku.
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| Niru | Date: Friday, 2011-07-01, 2:28 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Quote (panikoskun) Perhaps at some point Rikudo saw this kind of scenario although I think that he knew that the Jyuubi's resurrection wouldn't be for anything good.
Although the Gedo Mazo requires to have all the Tailed beasts before the Kyuubi's extraction maybe this is not the case for the lower tailed Bijuus. I guess it has more to do with the user.
Well Yugito did show us some of her abilities. The Yonbi also showed as the Lava element although we know now that its not unique to him. Also the 6-tails Utakata. And also the Shukaku.
But that was not their full power. They have not been shown whether they can sense the emotion or not
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