|
Madara's Vortext Jutsu theory.
|
|
| TobiRikudou | Date: Tuesday, 2011-07-05, 1:42 PM | Message # 1 |
 Genin Rank C
Group: Users
Messages: 93
Status: Offline
| So, this might sound crazy to you people, but looks can be deceiving, and since we have little info on Madara in general, i think there is a place for this theory.
We all know how the Sharingan works, the first stage can slightly predict moves, see the flow of chakra, and copy jutsu and whatnot, new abilities unlock with MS (and possibly with EMS too) anyway....
I'd like to point out that Madara/Tobi's been using the first stage of the Sharingan, even against Minato, and we all know that the first stage can copy, predict moves and see the flow of chakra.
Tobi has apparently never resorted to MS or EMS (we've seen no change in his eyes) so...i'm starting to doubt that the jutsu he's been using so far originate from his eye(s).
We have absolutely no information on his body, except the fact that he's got Hashirama's cells so...
...... isnt it possible that he's stolen and imbued himself with cells from other powerful people which have a kekkei genkai effect, or let him use the abilities he's shown so far?
The vortex does look like it originates from his right eye, but, could it be that it originates from his head in general, and not his eye? (it immediately covers his whole body as a shield too)
I dunno whether this makes sense at all, but i just felt like throwing it out there. Madara's jutsu isnt dojutsu...unless, the things we've seen from Madara so far, are effects from his EMS....
Thoughts?
|
| |
| |
| MGB2000X | Date: Tuesday, 2011-07-05, 9:46 PM | Message # 2 |
 Genin Rank B
Group: Users
Messages: 133
Status: Offline
| Interesting thoughts dude.
The no other sharingan techs are space time, well Itachi's allowed him control of time but it was in his own particular mental dimension so I don't think it counts.
Like you said the teleportation spirals out from his eye but becoming intangible doesn't. I had an old theory that Madara's vortex was a perfected version of Kamui. However his eye doesn't change.
There haven't been any notable ninja who had intangibility, so I'm doubtful that it's the result of more genetic splicing. It would be a little too convenient if Kishi wheeled out some late additions who previously had this power.
It does make sense that this isn't an sharingan tech but something unique to Madara.
|
| |
| |
| TobiRikudou | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-06, 1:11 AM | Message # 3 |
|
Genin Rank C
Group: Users
Messages: 93
Status: Offline
| What boggles me is the fact that his eye doesnt change, it's just a normal Sharingan....
Kamui is a different technique than Madara's jutsu(s) though, Kamui breaks down something and teleports it somewhere else (same dimension), Madara doesnt do that.
Well, it doesnt have to be someone notable, the jinchuriki always held a special place in Narutoverse but we barely met any...
But i agree, splicing is the easy way out for Kishimoto....
|
| |
| |
| panikoskun | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-06, 10:25 AM | Message # 4 |
 Jounin Commander of the Incredible Leaf
Group: Moderators
Messages: 507
Status: Offline
| Well I will use the Databook infos and say that your theory is very likely bro.
In the Databook Kamui is described as a space bending jutsu. Now if Kamui can do that with a non Uchiha user perhaps from an Uchiha user the space bending process can alter into adding the dimension of time.
Konoha Village Jounin Commander
|
| |
| |
| MGB2000X | Date: Saturday, 2011-07-09, 10:11 PM | Message # 5 |
|
Genin Rank B
Group: Users
Messages: 133
Status: Offline
| http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/7/7b/Sage_Divides_Chakra_Anime.jpg
Does anyone know which anime/manga this image come's from? apparently the sage splitting up the Juubi's chakra
|
| |
| |
| panikoskun | Date: Saturday, 2011-07-09, 11:01 PM | Message # 6 |
|
Jounin Commander of the Incredible Leaf
Group: Moderators
Messages: 507
Status: Offline
| Not sure bro but then again I wouldn't trust wikia that much.
Konoha Village Jounin Commander
|
| |
| |
| MGB2000X | Date: Sunday, 2011-07-10, 1:05 AM | Message # 7 |
|
Genin Rank B
Group: Users
Messages: 133
Status: Offline
| true enough, I don't remember it from either the manga or anime.
|
| |
| |
| panikoskun | Date: Monday, 2011-07-11, 12:53 PM | Message # 8 |
|
Jounin Commander of the Incredible Leaf
Group: Moderators
Messages: 507
Status: Offline
| If you don't then you might as well use leafninja and see if its there.
Konoha Village Jounin Commander
|
| |
| |
| MGB2000X | Date: Tuesday, 2011-07-12, 0:38 AM | Message # 9 |
|
Genin Rank B
Group: Users
Messages: 133
Status: Offline
| Not so familiar with Leafninja.com had a look nothing obvious there.
It'd have been around the time of the kage summit when Madara was explaining his plans I reckon.Added (2011-07-12, 0:38 Am)
---------------------------------------------
Episode 205 about 8 minutes in that's where the pic came from. It's not in the manga so probs not worth following up.
|
| |
| |
| panikoskun | Date: Tuesday, 2011-07-12, 10:30 AM | Message # 10 |
|
Jounin Commander of the Incredible Leaf
Group: Moderators
Messages: 507
Status: Offline
| If its not in the manga or the databooks then its not cannon therefore not a part of the original plot.
Konoha Village Jounin Commander
|
| |
| |
| MGB2000X | Date: Tuesday, 2011-07-12, 1:50 PM | Message # 11 |
|
Genin Rank B
Group: Users
Messages: 133
Status: Offline
| Quote (panikoskun) If its not in the manga or the databooks then its not cannon therefore not a part of the original plot.
I'd tend to agree with you. There is an exception where a anime character became part of the manga. So it's possible but highly improbable.
|
| |
| |
| panikoskun | Date: Wednesday, 2011-07-13, 1:16 PM | Message # 12 |
|
Jounin Commander of the Incredible Leaf
Group: Moderators
Messages: 507
Status: Offline
| In Naruto I haven't seen a filler character became a manga cannon character. The 6 tails Jinchuuriki though is another case altogether.
Konoha Village Jounin Commander
|
| |
| |
| MGB2000X | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-14, 1:58 AM | Message # 13 |
|
Genin Rank B
Group: Users
Messages: 133
Status: Offline
| If a whole character, especially a Jinchuriki can jump from anime to manga then why's it not possible for a single idea to filter through?
|
| |
| |
| panikoskun | Date: Thursday, 2011-07-14, 12:08 PM | Message # 14 |
|
Jounin Commander of the Incredible Leaf
Group: Moderators
Messages: 507
Status: Offline
| Because it has to be something originated in the starting plot. The 6-tails was a part of the plot with the Jinchuurikis an all.
Konoha Village Jounin Commander
|
| |
| |
| MGB2000X | Date: Friday, 2011-07-15, 1:35 PM | Message # 15 |
|
Genin Rank B
Group: Users
Messages: 133
Status: Offline
| Fair point.
I'll let this go don't think it's worth drawing out a discussion that is to do with about 3 seconds of footage.
|
| |
| |
